Podcasting of Age, Episode 5: Jason Chesterfield, the Jason Vorhees of Teachers   9 comments

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Today’s episode is having a very special guest star: Cerberus’ kitty!

Also, we learn that Jason is just about the shittiest teacher aide ever in so many ways. Have a listen! https://soundcloud.com/user-956738444/episode-5-jason-needs-to-leave-those-kids-alone

As always, lots of easy links to all the comics referenced.

3:52 Hours (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/hours/)

5:45 KITTY!

6:25 Accent (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/accent/)

8:15 Worse (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/worse/)

12:30 XKCD: How it Works (https://xkcd.com/385/)

13:26 Drop (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/drop/)

18:06 ALWAYS HUMAN: At Risk (http://www.webtoons.com/en/romance/always-human/season-2-51-at-risk/viewer?title_no=557&episode_no=56)

21:54 Enlightening (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/enlightening/)

24:27 Bloke (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/bloke/)

24:40 Crackin (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/crackin/)

25:50 Avail Yourself (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/avail/)

29:46 Without (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/without/)

33:43 Notes (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/notes/)

35:03 What’s all this (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/whatsallthis/)

36:01 “Don’t Stand So Close to Me” by The Police

37:07 Robust and More Quietly (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/robust-2/ and http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/more-quietly/)

39:03 Nothing to lose (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/nothing-to-lose/)

43:15 Recklessly, Procedural, and Shirk (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/recklessly/, http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/procedural/, and http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/shirk/)

45:30 Genuine (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/02-i-was-a-teenage-churchmouse/genuine/)

47:52 No thanks (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/nothanks/)

50:19 Teacher (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/teacher/)

51:28 Twelve-thirty (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/twelvethirty/)

53:28 Dangerous (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/dangerous/)

57:05 Quite (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/quite/)

57:52 Fulla (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/fulla/)

58:08 Twist (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/twist/)

59:33 Walking (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/walking/)

60:36 Occupancy (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/occupancy/)

62:30 Admirably (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/admirably/)

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Posted 12/02/2017 by Emperor Norton II in Podcasting of Age

9 responses to “Podcasting of Age, Episode 5: Jason Chesterfield, the Jason Vorhees of Teachers

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  1. Oh, no, I actually did manage to track that one down. It’s the one at 18:06.

  2. I ACTUALLY SQUEALED WHEN I SAW THIS ON SOUNDCLOUD. I have been looking forward to this one.

  3. “Sure, I’ve had sex with a student implying that it would affect her grade but…”

    Sorry, bowtie, that sentence ends there. That’s such a fucked up thing to do as a teacher that even all your other shortcomings fall flat, not to mention good sides.

    And it’s a shame, because I really see where Jason comes from. He self-identifies as someone who SHOULD be a good teacher. I’m sure he is a good grad student who reads the right books and attends the right meetings and wear the right bowtie. I’m sure he is good enough in his research field and he has fought hard to get where he is. And part of his self imagine of being a good Academic is to be a good Teacher, because that’s what academics do. And to be a good teacher, all he has to do is do allow the students to bask in his presence and they will pick it all up and…

    nope.

    (Sadly, Jason reminds me quite a bit of myself. Fortunately, so does Dorothy).

    And the sad part is that self centered as that drive to match his self image is, therein lies the foundation to actually learn the craft and become a decent – maybe even good – teacher. But between Penny and Professor hand-in-your-notes, it is obvious that he gets exactly zero encouragement to develop his pedagogical skills (actually, that’s not true. thanks to Penny that value is in the negatives).

    He is belittled, ignored and simply does not have any tools to become better. Has anyone offered him a pedagogical course? A didactic seminar? Do they even have meetings between teachers? To be perfectly frank, has anyone told him that to be a good teacher is not something you ARE, it’s something you BECOME. It’s not something that just forms from your other academic merits but a skillset you have to build in its own right, just as everything else.

    I sincerely doubt it.

    That’s why I am so happy for his interaction with Walky, because finally, FINALLY, he tried to be a teacher in the right way. Despite zero support from his peers and despite the blow to his self esteem that entire fiasco with Sal was.

    And such a self-caused fiasco it was. Awesome rundown, and your discussion made it plain just how much Jason did to make it all go south. Teaching skill aside, with just a smide of empathy and professionalism, he could have done A LOT to help Sal at least identify what her next step should be (find a better tutor), and he could have left with his ego less in tatters.

    It’s extremely enjoyable to listen to your conversation, and as always I look forward to your next episode.
    Bagge

    • A comment on what the esteemed Emperor said at about 4.20 about hormons causing Jason to forget everything he had every been taught about how to treat students – I beg do differ. I honestly don’t believe he ever got taught anything about teacher-student relationships.

      • So I suppose that’s an example of what I see as an ongoing theme in Dumbing of Age: Terrible people are terrible for a reason. Jason is a terrible teacher, which is only slightly obscured by the fact that the ONLY non-terrible teacher we have seen so far is Leslie (although I have great hopes for Alex), and that among the terrible teachers, Jason actually has redeeming qualities.

        But the reason he is a terrible teacher is structural. It’s about how his program is set up, it’s about lack of pedagogic merits in higher education and didactic interest at his department. It’s about his terrible peers and colleges and it’s about his own very Walky-esque flaw of trying to be a good teacher by wishing very hard and having a bowtie rather than trying to improve himself (which is a neat little irony in his relationship with BOTH Sal and Walky).

      • True. I mean, I’m sure there was some sort of short seminar or something… Which probably just said “don’t do this” without explaining -why- it’s so damn bad.

        And that’s important. If you don’t know or understand why something is bad, you’re more likely to try and justify that -you- doing it isn’t so bad.

      • I think that depends on his program – if he’s in school for Education (as was my reading) he should definitely know better.

    • Now that’s the kind of comment I really enjoy reading. Yes, there isn’t just the problem of Jason being a bad TA; it’s the problem of the structure that allows him to be a bad teacher. We did touch upon this, but I think your comment goes deeper into how bad the entire system is. To think that everyone learns the same way (and if you don’t learn it that way, something’s wrong with you) is definitely something that’s been deeply ingrained as “the way it should be” by schools for more than a century now, and we’re only just starting to slowly climb out of that pit.

      So I guess that for Jason to be redeemed, he not only has to go up against his own massive ego (which to be fair, seems to have been somewhat shrunk) , he also has to go up against everything he’s been “taught” by a horrible system. Not unlike how Joyce needed to go against her entire upbringing to shed herself of her most toxic traits, really.

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